tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8468877507401817290.post2856676769226937075..comments2023-09-21T10:17:15.410-05:00Comments on Our Girl Friday: Vigilance for Dum-Dums (Like Me)Friday Macfayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00488340330212549021noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8468877507401817290.post-58888151858229696652009-01-12T14:17:00.000-06:002009-01-12T14:17:00.000-06:00I'll add to that...I am in no way opposed to a hun...I'll add to that...<BR/><BR/>I am in no way opposed to a hunter's pet off tanking a mob, while the others are dealt with! In fact, as far as "cc" goes, I'd prefer it if the healer can pull it off.<BR/><BR/>cc in Wrath dungeons just doesn't work like it did in BC dungeons. At least from what I've seen so far. The mobs are laid out differently, the pulls are different. And it's easy to tank everything. I think off tanking, by BM Hunter pets, VWs, or another plate wearer, or even a Rogue, is going to become way more common form of controlling mobs. FWIW<BR/><BR/>-FriFriday Macfayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00488340330212549021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8468877507401817290.post-67674334037915233132009-01-12T14:12:00.000-06:002009-01-12T14:12:00.000-06:00@PikeI still haven't tried it on a pet, but it's o...@Pike<BR/><BR/>I still haven't tried it on a pet, but it's on my list. No reason it shouldn't work. :)<BR/><BR/>Other than an over-geared, over-zelous dps'er occasionally, I never loose threat now... except to a Hunter pet! When it happens it's always on multi-fight and it ping pongs. Pet pulls, I pull back, pet pulls, I pull back, etc. Don't have to taunt 'em off, it stays right on the line, but I can see when I get into heroics where it would be a problem if the tank's attention is needed elsewhere. Vigi would fix that right up.<BR/><BR/>Course training the healer to hot up and spot heal the pet helps, too. :)<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping in!<BR/><BR/>-FriFriday Macfayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00488340330212549021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8468877507401817290.post-29089566156044341952009-01-11T15:32:00.000-06:002009-01-11T15:32:00.000-06:00As a BM hunter, my pet tends to draw more threat t...As a BM hunter, my pet tends to draw more threat than I do, somehow, even if he has Growl off and Prowl on-- maybe it's my feigning death? =P So Vigilance on him might actually not be a bad idea!Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00249690585703986146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8468877507401817290.post-86778113916289700382009-01-11T14:02:00.000-06:002009-01-11T14:02:00.000-06:00@IndigoNot so much complicated... more... situatio...@Indigo<BR/><BR/>Not so much complicated... more... situational. It definitely takes some of that button-finger-reflex-memory. <BR/><BR/>I think that's what makes tanking interesting to me now. That's opposed to TBC where it was all about using a specific rotation, over and over and over... Probably also why I spent so much time in PvP as an Arms Warrior during BC. <BR/><BR/>A Prot Warrior CAN plan out each pull, tank with cc, mark carefully, follow a rotation, etc. and get the job done very well and efficiently.<BR/><BR/>I've always been more inclined to shoot from the hip. :) I like it chaotic, and fast, and unpredictable. Not good traits in a tank (I'm trying to be a better planner, I promise), but it's a lot more fun. What I guess I'm realizing is that Prot Warriors have all the tools to make people like me better tanks. You don't have to use 'em, but they are there if you need 'em.<BR/><BR/>It's usually the point-and-shoot players that save my big round butt. I appreciate Holy Priests, and I've learned to love whack-a-mole Holy Pallys. I think that Blizz has done a great job (much better job?) of accommodating and making more fun, several different styles of play.<BR/><BR/>And here I am yammering like I know what I'm talking about. lol<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping in :D<BR/><BR/>-FriFriday Macfayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00488340330212549021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8468877507401817290.post-6305390064370931642009-01-11T12:41:00.000-06:002009-01-11T12:41:00.000-06:00@PixHow embarrassing. Considering 90% of playtime ...@Pix<BR/><BR/>How embarrassing. Considering 90% of playtime in WoW over the years has been as an Arms Warrior, you'd think it'd throw in a mention. gah!<BR/><BR/>But yah, actually an Arms or Fury Warrior is possibly the BEST target of Vigilance!<BR/><BR/>Since I'm tanking most of the time now, I can say with a some degree of confidence that if I have to choose between two plate wearers, I'll take another Warrior. The over all effect of having an Arms Warrior in the party is just too yummy. :)<BR/><BR/>-FriFriday Macfayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00488340330212549021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8468877507401817290.post-55711203538487263722009-01-11T12:30:00.000-06:002009-01-11T12:30:00.000-06:00@AneaIn Burning Crusade twas a valid concern. Bliz...@Anea<BR/><BR/>In Burning Crusade twas a valid concern. Blizz stacked those dungeons w/ large, difficult to control mob groups. Shatter Hells is a horrible tanking experience for a Warrior and Tempest Keep? Still have nightmares. Gave up tanking after that.<BR/><BR/>It's fixed, though. :)<BR/><BR/>Warriors can match a Pally or DK for area threat. They single/boss tank as well as a bear (maybe better, but hopefully bear friends will get some fixes soon). They shrug off or flat out avoid damage. And no class is tougher. Healers love Warrior tanks. :)<BR/><BR/>That said...<BR/><BR/>Warrior tanking is a bit more involved. Blizz has made all the Warrior classes more fun to play, but there's more work involved than with some other tank classes. Abilities are very situational. Less rotation, more prioritizing which ability to use in a given situation. No one button to do it all, sorta thang.<BR/><BR/>A Very Good Protection Warrior is simply amazing to watch in action. The balance between threat and mitigation, when done right, is like a ballet. It's awesome.<BR/><BR/>Nice thing is, you can roll a Warrior and get a light feel for tanking with one as early as VC. Now that Thunderclap has unlimited targets early tanking is easier. I'm leveling a new Prot Warrior now, just for fun. lol<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping in and let me know if ya give it a try!<BR/><BR/>-FriFriday Macfayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00488340330212549021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8468877507401817290.post-88726450036352987332009-01-11T12:09:00.000-06:002009-01-11T12:09:00.000-06:00@brackTY! And yah, I almost always forget about it...@brack<BR/><BR/>TY! And yah, I almost always forget about it. Right up until the Omen warning sound starts going off. :D<BR/><BR/>After looking over the report thingies at the end though, it adds a ton and makes it almost impossible for the person you're watching to pull anything off you... even if they're being a doofus and switching targets rapidly or hitting stuffs out of order. Blizz did a good thing with this one.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping in! And looking forward to reading more about your tanking adventures!<BR/><BR/>-FriFriday Macfayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00488340330212549021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8468877507401817290.post-6452454169724062432009-01-10T05:29:00.000-06:002009-01-10T05:29:00.000-06:00I've never tried playing a tanking class, it alway...I've never tried playing a tanking class, it always seemed so complicated. I'm definitely more of a "point and shoot" player.Kellie @ Delightfully Ludicroushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18226603919012169939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8468877507401817290.post-25671973116289892652009-01-08T12:39:00.000-06:002009-01-08T12:39:00.000-06:00Don't forget AoE DPS types like us Arms/Fury playe...Don't forget AoE DPS types like us Arms/Fury players. Bladestorm and sweeping strikes make for huge damage, and as a result, a nice little threat bonus just for you! ^_^Pixelated Executionerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11916799278787211319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8468877507401817290.post-77411913153086034962009-01-05T18:19:00.000-06:002009-01-05T18:19:00.000-06:00Interesting - I know nothing about the warrior cla...Interesting - I know nothing about the warrior class or their abilities (other than absolutely bare-bones knowledge, anyway). I play a holy priest and I've been itching to play a tanking class, to see how it is on the other side. I was worried about trying a warrior for lack of viable AoE tanking (again, this is an assumption based on what little I know) This post helps me think that maybe I could play a warrior after all. (There's just too many pallys running around) :)Aneahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16326966644060505688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8468877507401817290.post-18683032495916902642009-01-04T19:43:00.000-06:002009-01-04T19:43:00.000-06:00Great tips there Friday, I know I'm guilty of unde...Great tips there Friday, I know I'm guilty of under utilising ye olde Vigilance, but I expect to be making more and better use of this handy buff in the future!Brackarnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08660024256169710476noreply@blogger.com